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Heretics Anonymous's avatar

I have been pondering Jeremiah 31 for a while and always wondered about who the convent was made with. It wasn’t gentiles according to Jeremiah 31, so it never made sense to me.

The only thing I don’t agree with is Yeshua because equal to YHWH in a Greek metaphysical sense. I don’t believe in the trinity as most do, which is plagued with Greek influence.

I believe Yeshua when he says the Father is greater than I, and there is one true God and one Father. Paul affirms this also in 1 Cor. 8:6

Great article and it has me thinking! Thank you.

John Solgat's avatar

Thank you for your response. I agree with you on the trinity. For your consideration on the Yeshua/YHVH issue I suggest John1 and Zechariah 14. John 1 says that the Word (Yeshua) made flesh created all things. Genesis 2:4 says YHVH created. Zechariah discusses what most people call the war of Armageddon which we say happens at Yeshua's second coming. In Zechariah, the name YHVH is all over the text hidden behind "the LORD." I appreciate that this made you think; that is the goal.

I joined Heretics Anonymous as I am one as well.

Heretics Anonymous's avatar

Yes! I believe that Yeshua was divine, but I’ve been studying from an agency/functional sense, not Greek ontological.

He embodied the creative Word of GOD, but not as a separate entity. The wisdom of proverbs 8 was also at creation, but it’s not a separate entity – it is an extension of Yahweh himself.

Anyways, I’m learning to understand how a Hebrew would understand John 1.

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Heretics Anonymous's avatar

How do gentiles follow all of Torah? The Torah was given to Israelites at mount Sinai. The covenant was with them. How do gentiles adhere to Torah in 21st century? Jews can’t even follow Torah without a temple right?

Although Acts 15 does lay out requirements for gentiles to adhere to.

Heretics Anonymous's avatar

Never mind Sergio sent me a really good explanation of how gentiles can honor Torah.

Heretics Anonymous's avatar

My friend sent me this. Would love to hear your thoughts.

When he says both he’s referring to the new covenant as a suzerian style vow made on his dead body by YHWH - he was faithful to death, and Jeremiah 31.

“Yeshua’s words over the cup are not separate from Jeremiah 31. They are his claim that Jeremiah 31 is being inaugurated through his sacrificial death. The fact that Jeremiah’s promise is not yet universally consummated in every visible sense does not mean it has not begun. It means the new covenant is already established in Messiah and not yet exhausted in history. Gentiles fit not as an afterthought but as those brought into Israel’s promised blessing through union with the faithful Messiah. So yes, it can be both. More than that, it has to be both, because the blood of the supper is precisely how the promised covenant becomes historically operative.”

John Solgat's avatar

2,000 years and the world looks nothing like the promises of that covenant. The world, or should I say the Christian world, wants the Mt. Sinai covenant to be null and void which helps sell that the Torah is "ended." The world is so much easier when you can distill it down to the greatest commandments summarized as "Love God and Love others." It works when you can define what that looks like. When Yeshua answered that question He said, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 'This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Most people like to leave the last sentence off when quoting this. The Law [Torah] and the prophets are the "how to" of the first two commandments. Yeshua also said in Matthes 5:17-18, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." It is common for the word "fulfill" to be interpreted as "end." That doesn't go with the next sentence when He said that "until heaven and earth pass away." I made my case. I used scripture to back it up. "For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it." Few are going to find this. The world is going to fight it. That is what Scripture says. You might also want to consider my prior article "Easter or Passover" where I discuss "the cup."