Thanks for sharing that image from the old Bible — it’s a great example of how printing looked in the 16th and 17th centuries.
What you’re seeing in “Iefus” isn’t an “f” at all, and it doesn’t mean the name “Jesus” was missing from the Geneva Bible. That character is actually a long s (written as ſ), a common variant of the letter “S” used in old English printing. It looks similar to a lowercase “f” without the crossbar, which is why it’s easy to mistake for an “f” when you’re not familiar with the style. The blog post seems to have misread this long s as an actual “f.” (It is not.)
The “Ie” at the beginning is also just how they represented the name back then. The letter J didn’t exist as a separate character in most typefaces yet, so they used I for both the “i” and “j” sounds. So “Iefus” is simply the way they printed Jesus — pronounced exactly the same as we do today.
The Pilgrims on the Mayflower carried the Geneva Bible and would have been completely familiar with “Iefus” (or “Iesus”) as the name of their Lord and Savior. They read it, prayed it, and heard it preached regularly. Saying “Jesus” to a Pilgrim wouldn’t have confused them — it was the same name, just spelled and typeset according to the conventions of their time.
This is very similar to seeing “ſin” for “sin” or “ſalvation” for “salvation” in old books. It’s a typesetting and spelling convention from early modern English, not evidence that the name was absent or different.
The claim in the blog post appears to come from a misunderstanding of these old printing practices. The Geneva Bible definitely includes the name of Jesus hundreds of times — just in the style of its era.
Hope that helps clear it up! These old texts can look quite strange to modern readers, but once you know the conventions, it makes perfect sense.
I am fully aware that the “f” was sometimes pronounced as “s.” The hard “J” sound was not part of English at that time. It was not pronounced as it is today. That said, the Hebrew that the angel deliver the name in does not and never has had a hard “J” sound. His name is Yeshua. You may call Him Jesus if you like. He was never known by that name when He was first here. He won’t be known be that when He returns. His name has meaning when understood in the proper context. Shalom.
Thank you again for your thoughtful reply and for the conversation — I appreciate your heart for the original Hebrew context and the meaning behind the name. Shalom!
I wanted to gently clarify a couple of details from the blog post and the image, as they seem rooted in a common misunderstanding of early printing and language history.
First, on “Iefus”: That character that looks like an “f” is not an f at all. It’s the long s (written as ſ), a standard variant of the letter “S” widely used in 16th- and 17th-century English printing, especially in the middle of words. It has no crossbar and was never pronounced as an “f” — it’s simply an old style of “s.” So “Iefus” is just the Geneva Bible’s typesetting of Jesus (or more precisely “Iesus”). The Pilgrims would have read and pronounced it exactly as we say “Jesus” today. They were very familiar with it from their Bibles, sermons, prayers, and hymns.
The “Ie” at the start reflects the fact that the distinct letter J hadn’t yet been standardized in most English typefaces (it was still often written as I for both vowel and consonant sounds). This was a printing convention, not a change in the spoken name.
Second, on the “J” sound: You’re correct that the original Hebrew name given by the angel is Yeshua (a form of Joshua, meaning something like “Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is salvation”), and that Hebrew has no hard “J” (/dʒ/) sound — it starts with a “y” sound (as in “yes”). That’s an important and beautiful point about the name’s meaning in its original context.
However, the hard “J” sound did exist in spoken English by the time of the Geneva Bible and the Pilgrims. It had entered the language centuries earlier, largely through Old French after the Norman Conquest in 1066. Middle English and Early Modern English already used this “juh” sound in many words (often spelled with “i,” “g,” or “dg” at the time). When people read the Geneva Bible aloud, they pronounced “Iesus” with the same “Jesus” sound we’re familiar with today — not a pure “Yay-soos” or “Ee-ay-soos.” The letter J itself was a later distinction in writing (becoming more consistent in the 1600s–1700s), but the sound was already part of everyday English speech well before that.
No one disputes that 1st-century Judea knew Him as Yeshua. The name naturally evolved through Greek (Iēsous), Latin (Iesus), and then into the languages of the nations as the Gospel spread — including the English form “Jesus,” which English-speaking Christians (like the Pilgrims) have used for centuries. Many believers today love using “Yeshua” to reconnect with the Hebrew roots and meaning, which is wonderful and enriching. Others stick with “Jesus” as the name through which the Good News reached their ancestors and culture. Both can honor Him when done with a sincere heart.
The blog post’s claim about the Pilgrims not recognizing “Jesus” seems to come from mixing up the long s (ſ) with “f” and treating old spelling conventions as a completely different name or pronunciation. The Geneva Bible actually uses the name (in its era’s style) hundreds of times.
I’d be glad to hear more of your thoughts if you’d like to continue discussing the rich history of the name and its meanings across languages.
I appreciate you articulating the whole “f”, “s” thing. I agree with you and actually left it unsaid in my piece. I never made an argument about that either way. What I left unsaid, you clarified. Thank you for that. I believe we will just have to disagree about the hard “J”, which is okay. If you ignore that in my argument, the rest still holds. He was given the name Yeshua from heaven. Most do not even know that and have no understanding of the meaning behind that which I show in this piece. Never did a Greek Jesus walk the earth; He was always a Hebrew/Israelite of the tribe of Judah Yeshua. We need to put Him back into His Hebrew/Israelite context. Maybe if we do that, we can begin to peel away what the Greco-Roman church has foisted upon us about Him and get back to building a relationship with Him. Shabbat Shalom!
Believe what you want apparently your Bible is a buffet, take what you like leave the rest. I have a post on Truth on my Stack. Go read that, no reason to retype that here. You would benefit reading others on my Stack as well. Until then this conversation is no longer useful. Good day.
You reject the very foundation. If you don’t believe the Scriptures then there is nothing to debate because there is nothing objectively real and true. You will never convince me. I can’t convince you because you have already been sent a strong delusion because you have rejected the truth. As I said, good luck with that.
Seems the Bereans were able to prove everything Paul taught by consulting the written Scriptures. Paul was impressed with that. You don’t seem to build your beliefs on anything. Maybe you should begin here: https://www.haveyouconsideredthis.com/p/a-bible-reading-plan. But you probably won’t. Good luck with that.
There is a man-made reason it is not spoken. That is called tradition. Boaz spoke it, there is no getting around that. Man’s tradition hides it from you 6,827 times in the English translations of the Tanaka (OT). The Bible also says we are to swear in His name, “As Yehovah lives!” It’s in the Bible, but you do you.
Well, the text is a book, and it is man made too, so if you allegiance is to the text, who then do you serve but your own interpretations which may be passed down from others?
THE LIFE IN YOUR MORTAL BODIES = John 6:63....THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE.
Acts 2:21... Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
THE KEY IS UNDERSTANDING THE NAME OF THE LORD
UNDERSTAND WHY THE QUESTION FAITH IN HIS NAME vs WORKS IS MOOT. IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT OLD NAME v NEW NAME (His name is the comandments, doctrine, sayings, covenant itself) NOT THE LETTERS THAT SPELL OUT "WORD" BUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MESSAGE-WORD. GODS NAME CAN ONLY BE LIVED OUT IN ONES LIFE. WRITTEN ON YOUR HEART. YOU CANNOT PRONOUNCE HIS NAME AS ONE PRONOUNCES BILL, BOB OR JESUS. 👇💥👇
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even 🌊BAPTISIM🌊 DOETH ALSO now SAVE us ....by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 5:26....sanctify and cleanse it with the 🌊WASHING of WATER🌊 by 👉THE WORD👈
Galatians 3:24 .... 27 For as many of you as have been 🌊BAPTISED🌊 INTO CHRIST have PUT ON CHRIST.
Psalms 51:2 🌊WASH ME🌊 THROUGHLY FROM MINE INIQUITY, and 🩸CLEANSE ME FROM MY SIN🩸...3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin .....10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and ✳RENEW A RIGHT SPIRIT✳within me..
Titus 3:5 ..by the 🌊WASHING🌊 of regeneration, and ✳RENEWING OF THE HOLY GHOST.✳...
...16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
John 14:23..., If a man ♥️LOVE ME♥️, he will 👉KEEP MY WORDS👈: and my Father will love him,....
1 John 5:3..♥️THIS IS THE LOVE ♥️of God, that we 👉KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS👈:
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he... that HEAR the words of this prophecy, and 👉KEEP THOES THINGS WRITTEN👈 therein: for the time is at hand. Rev22:18...unto every man that HEARETH the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,...19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Revelation offers an interesting theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto U these things in the churches. Also states it is "the true sayings" of Jesus & that it is "the testimony of Christ". If this is not "the gospel of Jesus Christ" then what is it & should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider. The reason people don't understand revelation is because they never understood the gospel in the first place! Is it not curious the most "Personally" given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood & given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh....and I will WRITE UPON HIM THE 🎯NAME🎯 OF MY GOD, and THE 🎯NAME🎯 OF THE CITY OF MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will WRITE UPON HIM 🎯MY NEW NAME.🎯
Revelation 19:10..: for the TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.
2 Tim 4: 4... shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES..... 8 , shall give me AT THAT DAY: and not to me only, but UNTO ALL THEM also that 💣LOVE HIS APPEARING💣
💣IMPOSSIBLE to love an appearing U deny!?!💣 (context= 2nd comming of "that day")
2 Thess 2:10..... because they received not THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved.11.. GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSIONS.
Isaiah 66:4 I ALSO WILL CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS....22 For as 🎯THE NEWS HEAVENS AND ...NEW EARTH🎯,..
Strange. Exodus 3:15 begs to differ. It says Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey is is name forever. That is what it says. The speaker is Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey (YHVH, Yehovah) Himself. You will have to take that up with Him. I take HIM at HIS word. Also, the angel sent from Heaven said, “You shall call His name Yeshua for He will save His People from their sins.” (Matthew 1:21). I will go with what Heaven has said.
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
I guess that I don’t understand the point of all of this. I made the point that God’s name is hidden in the English Bible of 6,800 times behind “LORD” or “GOD” I also explained the meaning of that name. I also explained the meaning of “Yeshua” and where it came from. Nothing above seems to argue against any of that. Am I missing something?
Not an attack but Gods name is NOT Yeshua... that designation is equivalent to "God" or a job title or describes a natural quality that's why it has a meaning in the first place. The Name of God is NOT a set of letters like John or Bill or Yeshua .. Gods name is specifically identified as his word not the letters thst spell "word" nor any of the letters it is the sum total of his sayings doctrines commands..... No one can ptlronounce Gods name you can only live it out in obediance..... Yeshua is a minor descriptive term NOT his proper name. More akin to a nick name designation but has no inheriant power in its pronunciation or its spelling. Gods name is NOT pronouncable in letters .... ERGO...
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
Hello al, I would assume that they did address Him as “my Lord.” It is an appropriate Title for Him. The angel did say, “You shall call his Name Yeshua.” Shalom!
Look at the original Hebrew manuscripts. Every place that the lying pens of the scribes and Pharisees put the title “Lord” was His actual name. We are told hundreds of times in His Word that He wants us to call Him by name.
Yahusha, aka Jesus, said He came in His Father’s name. Also there was no such letter in the Hebrew alphabet, it was “Y”.
Apparently, you did NOT read the post. Try again and then comment. The scribes did not include vowels with the name (or only partial at times). I explained the vowels that I chose. How did you arrive at yours for the pronunciation?
I appreciate your giving your opinion on the matter. Just because you say it doesn't make it so and you provide no backup as to how you arrived at it. I do respect making an attempt and not just defaulting to "the LORD" or "Jesus." Maybe I am wrong, maybe you are, maybe we both are. I gave reasoning and evidence; you made an assertion with nothing to back it up so that I may consider your argument. Would you like to make a reasoned argument or just stand on your assertion?
Let me leave a post for you & all here. Lest I ever mislead or took anyone away from truth.. be blessed. And may my testimony touch your heart! In Jesus name. May health & truth, be upon thee!!
I do want to give testimony to the name Jesus Christ.. The name I prayed with and too & thru all my days that I turned unto he.. When the Night of my death did come? Which by an AI generated Spell of Death was unleashed upon me? Killing me!! And I was cast into Outer Darkness!
Which was the most HORRIFIC & TERRIFYING PLACE, a man or woman could ever fathom? It was Jesus name that brought a clash of heavy steel in the split second, 10,000 symbols struck my eyes like a serpent!! In that split second 2 great swords clashed & the sound? It is etched in my being forever.. The darkness I was therein? Was as black as black could ever be.. It was as forlorn & hopeless a place as any Man or Woman could ever even fathom. But it was the Name Jesus Christ that I repented unto.. prior to this fateful night last year.. For months on end in quite suffering and sheer repentance! I give you this testimony, from everything that I am!! My mind, body, spirit, soul, conscious & subconscious!! On all I ever was and shall be!! I speak the truth.. have a blessed night. If you want to talk? I am always willing to converse.. I have seen the pit of the abyss.. I was in it for a length of time, as I lay dead, face down on my hardwood floor.. it’s a night, I shall never forget. Lest anyone should be cast into Outer Darkness. As to me? There is NONE WORSE PLACE TO RESIDE FOR ETERNITY…
I did not share for likes or any shallow or superficial desires!! I shared to put the fear of the Lord Jesus Christ into any and all!! That they may know the consequences, of worshipping idols and or committing Idolatry.. If I lied? I asked that God strike me, with a bolt of lightening!!
It would be my desire that NONE should ever perish!! I don’t ever try to disrespect another’s views or beliefs. But I will not tolerate people being of any more confusion than there has already been for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.. I shared not a poem! But a journey of my entire life! That led to a night that tested everything I stand on!! I stand for The Name above ALL NAMES.. JESUS CHRIST..ACADEMIA?
They are funded with grants, that pay them to tell a story.
I am not funded or paid to speak!! I am not bought and paid for!! Matter of fact? I am poor!! And I am fine with it. There is NO price that is worth my soul or my devotion & faith & commitment unto Thy Heavenly Father & unto Almighty God Jesus Christ. For they are 1!! And I? I am 1 with them!! Forever & ever. I give ALL GLORY & PRAISE & WORSHIP UNTO OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN!! THIS IS NONE TIME FOR CONFUSION. I PUT MY LIFE THAT VERY NIGHT? AND BEFORE IT & AFTER IT, INTO THE HANDS OF THY FATHER!! WHOM IS THE LIGHT & JOY OF MY LIFE..I PRAY FOR THOSE IN DARKNESS & FOR THE CHILDREN & THE SICK & THE POOR & OPPRESSED… IN JESUS HOLIEST OF HOLY NAMES!! ABOVE ALL NAMES.. FOREVER & EVER.. AMEN.
We are in End times. When the CBDC is enacted? Hell? Literally comes with it. The Prophecy of The Book of Revealtion? Is 💯 in motion. This is serious times. The End is as the beginning. Best to you! I shared what I hope shall save a soul! The Holy Ghost is my way.
You should explore the last few of my articles and you will see that I very much agree with you that we are in the last days. Revelation is playing out before our eyes as is Daniel. Shalom.
NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL.. IN THE SPIRIT REALM? JESUS CASTS OUT DEVILS… UNCLEAN SPIRITS.. NOT “YEHOVAH”! IN THE WORLD IN ANY MANNER. JESUS NAME IS THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES.. PERIOD. BUT U?? U CANNOT GRASP.. DIFFERENT CULTURES, USE DIFFERENT NAMES. BUT TO TRY TO CONFUSE?? IN THESE DAYS. WOW. THATS ON YOU. GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST!! FOR HE KNOWS WHOM HIS FLOCK IS. AND HE KNOWS A MAN OR WOMANS HEART & INTENTION.
I am so blessed with how you dig in and drill the truth about Yehovah’s name. I want to share the video from thewaybiblicalfellowship.com where yours and theirs study on His name overlaps. JP was saying between tribes of Israel there were very slight different ways of sounding His name because the locals have accents. If you have the time I believe the video gives another insight to His name
Thank you for sharing. I found the video. Very insightful. In Hebrew, names have meaning. Many people were renamed because they were changed; Abram and Jacob come to mind. I believe that knowing to pronounce the name is important and intertwined with the character that name means and represents. I would recommend the video to anyone that finds their way here. Shalom!
Amazing comment! Provide zero proof or justification for your assertion. Maybe you are right but just because you say it does not make is so. Resources? I provided links to resources that you can explore to determine if what I posited is true or not. You make assertions. Intellectually dishonest. You may very well be right; we’ll find out eventually. Say Yahweh if you would like, it is at least an attempt at a name instead of using a title.
May I respectfully encourage you to read a book (available online as a pdf) titled “The Complex Name of the Almighty”, by Yoseph Viel? in it, he explains how and why what has been mistranslated as “The Lord” and “Adonai”, is indeed the Name of God!
There is also a marvellous YouTube video from a Jewish Christian, showing how God’s name points directly to Yeshua, letter-by letter “hands - see - nails - see (look specifically for a Jewish teaching).
I am not sure about the exact video but I would encourage you to search something like “paleo Hebrew Yeshua.” This is very interesting as each letter has an individual meaning and a Hebrew word can represent an entire sentence when deconstructed. Happy hunting; it is fascinating.
Admirable that you are attempting to buck superstition and reintroduce God’s name.
There was a rule that the names for foreign gods were not to be pronounced in the land of Israel (which prophets broke, occasionally, to condemn people for specific disobedience, indicating Yehovah’s rule was more about intent than the letter of the law). But it seems as a result, secret false worshippers (that lived in Isreal) would use the title Ba’al to hide which god they actually worshipped. That idea may have metastasized and become the genesis of the later Jewish custom of substituting titles to refer to Yehovah - Making a title the de rigueur way of referring to God, gave more cover to false god worshippers… not to mention, it probably pleased Satan’s sense of revenge greatly. (Note that Satan means resister and Devil means slanderer, probably not what Satan prefers to be addressed by - it is, in a sense a derogatory nickname)
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This explanation of another way the Divine Name is read, shows that it may have more, a second applicable meaning:
YHWH: he causes to become
HWH: to become
What is the meaning of the name Yehovah? In Hebrew, the name Yehovah comes from a verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars feel that it reflects the causative form of that Hebrew verb. Thus, the understanding of one translation committee is that God’s name means “He Causes to Become.” Scholars hold varying views, so we cannot be dogmatic about this meaning. However, this definition well fits Yehovah’s role as the Creator of all things and the Fulfiller of his purpose. He not only caused the physical universe and intelligent beings to exist, but as events unfold, he continues to cause his will and purpose to be realized.Therefore, the meaning of the name Yehovah is not limited to the related verb found at Exodus 3:14, which reads: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become” or, “I Will Prove to Be What I Will Prove to Be.” In the strictest sense, those words do not fully define God’s name. Rather, they reveal an aspect of God’s personality, showing that he becomes what is needed in each circumstance to fulfill his purpose.
So while the name Yehovah may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes to happen with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
Thank you for your comment and adding to the discussion. I really appreciate it. My major point here is that what we think is normal, calling Him “God,” has not always been “normal.” Many do not even realize that the name is intentionally hidden 6,827 times in the Tanaka. I believe we should call Him by a name instead of a title. If someone chooses “Yahweh,” “Yahuah,” “Jehovah,” etc. is up to them. Just have a reason why that pronunciation is chosen. Know why you believe what you believe. Shalom!
I fully agree. I, in my previous comment, was explaining how the superstition or habit of saying God, instead of using his name, may have started with false worshippers hiding their false worship by using a title, then later (as they got into government, like Jezebel) forcing titles to be the cultural standard, to further diminish the Name.
Thanks for sharing that image from the old Bible — it’s a great example of how printing looked in the 16th and 17th centuries.
What you’re seeing in “Iefus” isn’t an “f” at all, and it doesn’t mean the name “Jesus” was missing from the Geneva Bible. That character is actually a long s (written as ſ), a common variant of the letter “S” used in old English printing. It looks similar to a lowercase “f” without the crossbar, which is why it’s easy to mistake for an “f” when you’re not familiar with the style. The blog post seems to have misread this long s as an actual “f.” (It is not.)
The “Ie” at the beginning is also just how they represented the name back then. The letter J didn’t exist as a separate character in most typefaces yet, so they used I for both the “i” and “j” sounds. So “Iefus” is simply the way they printed Jesus — pronounced exactly the same as we do today.
The Pilgrims on the Mayflower carried the Geneva Bible and would have been completely familiar with “Iefus” (or “Iesus”) as the name of their Lord and Savior. They read it, prayed it, and heard it preached regularly. Saying “Jesus” to a Pilgrim wouldn’t have confused them — it was the same name, just spelled and typeset according to the conventions of their time.
This is very similar to seeing “ſin” for “sin” or “ſalvation” for “salvation” in old books. It’s a typesetting and spelling convention from early modern English, not evidence that the name was absent or different.
The claim in the blog post appears to come from a misunderstanding of these old printing practices. The Geneva Bible definitely includes the name of Jesus hundreds of times — just in the style of its era.
Hope that helps clear it up! These old texts can look quite strange to modern readers, but once you know the conventions, it makes perfect sense.
Best regards,
Scot
I am fully aware that the “f” was sometimes pronounced as “s.” The hard “J” sound was not part of English at that time. It was not pronounced as it is today. That said, the Hebrew that the angel deliver the name in does not and never has had a hard “J” sound. His name is Yeshua. You may call Him Jesus if you like. He was never known by that name when He was first here. He won’t be known be that when He returns. His name has meaning when understood in the proper context. Shalom.
His name is YAHUSHA. As was Yahusha son of nun
Thank you again for your thoughtful reply and for the conversation — I appreciate your heart for the original Hebrew context and the meaning behind the name. Shalom!
I wanted to gently clarify a couple of details from the blog post and the image, as they seem rooted in a common misunderstanding of early printing and language history.
First, on “Iefus”: That character that looks like an “f” is not an f at all. It’s the long s (written as ſ), a standard variant of the letter “S” widely used in 16th- and 17th-century English printing, especially in the middle of words. It has no crossbar and was never pronounced as an “f” — it’s simply an old style of “s.” So “Iefus” is just the Geneva Bible’s typesetting of Jesus (or more precisely “Iesus”). The Pilgrims would have read and pronounced it exactly as we say “Jesus” today. They were very familiar with it from their Bibles, sermons, prayers, and hymns.
The “Ie” at the start reflects the fact that the distinct letter J hadn’t yet been standardized in most English typefaces (it was still often written as I for both vowel and consonant sounds). This was a printing convention, not a change in the spoken name.
Second, on the “J” sound: You’re correct that the original Hebrew name given by the angel is Yeshua (a form of Joshua, meaning something like “Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is salvation”), and that Hebrew has no hard “J” (/dʒ/) sound — it starts with a “y” sound (as in “yes”). That’s an important and beautiful point about the name’s meaning in its original context.
However, the hard “J” sound did exist in spoken English by the time of the Geneva Bible and the Pilgrims. It had entered the language centuries earlier, largely through Old French after the Norman Conquest in 1066. Middle English and Early Modern English already used this “juh” sound in many words (often spelled with “i,” “g,” or “dg” at the time). When people read the Geneva Bible aloud, they pronounced “Iesus” with the same “Jesus” sound we’re familiar with today — not a pure “Yay-soos” or “Ee-ay-soos.” The letter J itself was a later distinction in writing (becoming more consistent in the 1600s–1700s), but the sound was already part of everyday English speech well before that.
No one disputes that 1st-century Judea knew Him as Yeshua. The name naturally evolved through Greek (Iēsous), Latin (Iesus), and then into the languages of the nations as the Gospel spread — including the English form “Jesus,” which English-speaking Christians (like the Pilgrims) have used for centuries. Many believers today love using “Yeshua” to reconnect with the Hebrew roots and meaning, which is wonderful and enriching. Others stick with “Jesus” as the name through which the Good News reached their ancestors and culture. Both can honor Him when done with a sincere heart.
The blog post’s claim about the Pilgrims not recognizing “Jesus” seems to come from mixing up the long s (ſ) with “f” and treating old spelling conventions as a completely different name or pronunciation. The Geneva Bible actually uses the name (in its era’s style) hundreds of times.
I’d be glad to hear more of your thoughts if you’d like to continue discussing the rich history of the name and its meanings across languages.
Thanks again for engaging!
Best regards,
Scot
I appreciate you articulating the whole “f”, “s” thing. I agree with you and actually left it unsaid in my piece. I never made an argument about that either way. What I left unsaid, you clarified. Thank you for that. I believe we will just have to disagree about the hard “J”, which is okay. If you ignore that in my argument, the rest still holds. He was given the name Yeshua from heaven. Most do not even know that and have no understanding of the meaning behind that which I show in this piece. Never did a Greek Jesus walk the earth; He was always a Hebrew/Israelite of the tribe of Judah Yeshua. We need to put Him back into His Hebrew/Israelite context. Maybe if we do that, we can begin to peel away what the Greco-Roman church has foisted upon us about Him and get back to building a relationship with Him. Shabbat Shalom!
Love Yehova ,and Yeshua. Also Nehemiah Gordon has some great teachings…
Name = purpose = vocation
There is a reason it is not spoken.
Believe what you want apparently your Bible is a buffet, take what you like leave the rest. I have a post on Truth on my Stack. Go read that, no reason to retype that here. You would benefit reading others on my Stack as well. Until then this conversation is no longer useful. Good day.
You reject the very foundation. If you don’t believe the Scriptures then there is nothing to debate because there is nothing objectively real and true. You will never convince me. I can’t convince you because you have already been sent a strong delusion because you have rejected the truth. As I said, good luck with that.
I have not rejected anything foundational. What to you is the truth?
Seems the Bereans were able to prove everything Paul taught by consulting the written Scriptures. Paul was impressed with that. You don’t seem to build your beliefs on anything. Maybe you should begin here: https://www.haveyouconsideredthis.com/p/a-bible-reading-plan. But you probably won’t. Good luck with that.
Interesting. What has your study of the text given you?
Faith and trust. What has your rejection given you?
faith and trust in what? What do you think I rejected?
There is a man-made reason it is not spoken. That is called tradition. Boaz spoke it, there is no getting around that. Man’s tradition hides it from you 6,827 times in the English translations of the Tanaka (OT). The Bible also says we are to swear in His name, “As Yehovah lives!” It’s in the Bible, but you do you.
Well, the text is a book, and it is man made too, so if you allegiance is to the text, who then do you serve but your own interpretations which may be passed down from others?
THE LIFE IN YOUR MORTAL BODIES = John 6:63....THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE.
Acts 2:21... Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
THE KEY IS UNDERSTANDING THE NAME OF THE LORD
UNDERSTAND WHY THE QUESTION FAITH IN HIS NAME vs WORKS IS MOOT. IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT OLD NAME v NEW NAME (His name is the comandments, doctrine, sayings, covenant itself) NOT THE LETTERS THAT SPELL OUT "WORD" BUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MESSAGE-WORD. GODS NAME CAN ONLY BE LIVED OUT IN ONES LIFE. WRITTEN ON YOUR HEART. YOU CANNOT PRONOUNCE HIS NAME AS ONE PRONOUNCES BILL, BOB OR JESUS. 👇💥👇
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even 🌊BAPTISIM🌊 DOETH ALSO now SAVE us ....by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 5:26....sanctify and cleanse it with the 🌊WASHING of WATER🌊 by 👉THE WORD👈
Galatians 3:24 .... 27 For as many of you as have been 🌊BAPTISED🌊 INTO CHRIST have PUT ON CHRIST.
Psalms 51:2 🌊WASH ME🌊 THROUGHLY FROM MINE INIQUITY, and 🩸CLEANSE ME FROM MY SIN🩸...3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin .....10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and ✳RENEW A RIGHT SPIRIT✳within me..
Titus 3:5 ..by the 🌊WASHING🌊 of regeneration, and ✳RENEWING OF THE HOLY GHOST.✳...
...16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
John 14:23..., If a man ♥️LOVE ME♥️, he will 👉KEEP MY WORDS👈: and my Father will love him,....
1 John 5:3..♥️THIS IS THE LOVE ♥️of God, that we 👉KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS👈:
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he... that HEAR the words of this prophecy, and 👉KEEP THOES THINGS WRITTEN👈 therein: for the time is at hand. Rev22:18...unto every man that HEARETH the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,...19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Revelation offers an interesting theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto U these things in the churches. Also states it is "the true sayings" of Jesus & that it is "the testimony of Christ". If this is not "the gospel of Jesus Christ" then what is it & should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider. The reason people don't understand revelation is because they never understood the gospel in the first place! Is it not curious the most "Personally" given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood & given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh....and I will WRITE UPON HIM THE 🎯NAME🎯 OF MY GOD, and THE 🎯NAME🎯 OF THE CITY OF MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will WRITE UPON HIM 🎯MY NEW NAME.🎯
Revelation 19:10..: for the TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.
2 Tim 4: 4... shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES..... 8 , shall give me AT THAT DAY: and not to me only, but UNTO ALL THEM also that 💣LOVE HIS APPEARING💣
💣IMPOSSIBLE to love an appearing U deny!?!💣 (context= 2nd comming of "that day")
2 Thess 2:10..... because they received not THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved.11.. GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSIONS.
Isaiah 66:4 I ALSO WILL CHOOSE THEIR DELUSIONS....22 For as 🎯THE NEWS HEAVENS AND ...NEW EARTH🎯,..
https://www.academia.edu/23846490/Thief_and_Cross_3D
https://www.scribd.com/document/326686356/Thief-Cross-3D
You do you! We obviously are not going to agree. I made my case. Good day.
Strange. Exodus 3:15 begs to differ. It says Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey is is name forever. That is what it says. The speaker is Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey (YHVH, Yehovah) Himself. You will have to take that up with Him. I take HIM at HIS word. Also, the angel sent from Heaven said, “You shall call His name Yeshua for He will save His People from their sins.” (Matthew 1:21). I will go with what Heaven has said.
Yeshua means salvation. Yahusha means Yahs salvation.
😅 Look at your own reference & argument
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
CALL HIS NAME WONDERFUL FOREVER!!
😅 Look at your own reference & argument
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
CALL HIS NAME WONDERFUL FOREVER!!
😅 Look at your own reference & argument
“You shall call his name…… ” .. You took that as identifying his name but it actually to be taken literally!! … You should call his name wonderful does not mean his name is wonderful !?……. “You should call his name wonderful forever” is NOT a identification of any name itself, it is description of the name and you should call that name wonderful!?! ( pick your adjective)
His name is “wonderful” is NOT hisname!? It is the description of his name.
His name is everlasting is NOT his name, it is a description of his name.
This is why you noticed the meaning of the word Yeshua because Yeshua is an a adjective NOT A NAME!?!
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
NOTE: THE PRESENT ACTIVE PARTICIPLE , THE "WASH" HERE IS THE ACT OF "CALLING"👇
Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be 🌊BAPTISED🌊, and 🌊WASH🌊 away thy sins, CALLING ON 🎯THE NAME🎯 of the Lord.:
HIS ACTUAL NAME CANNOT BE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL HIS WORD…..ALL COMMANDS, ALL DOCTRINES……. AND YET IT IS STILL TRUE THAT HIS NAME IS WONDERFUL AND EVERLASTING…AND YOU SHOULD CALL IT WONDERFUL FOREVER ……. LETTERS & SOUNDS OF LETTERS DO NOT SAVE ONLY OBEDISNCE TO THE WORD WHICH IS HIS NAME UNPRONOUNCABLE ……..
CALL HIS NAME WONDERFUL FOREVER!!
I guess that I don’t understand the point of all of this. I made the point that God’s name is hidden in the English Bible of 6,800 times behind “LORD” or “GOD” I also explained the meaning of that name. I also explained the meaning of “Yeshua” and where it came from. Nothing above seems to argue against any of that. Am I missing something?
Not an attack but Gods name is NOT Yeshua... that designation is equivalent to "God" or a job title or describes a natural quality that's why it has a meaning in the first place. The Name of God is NOT a set of letters like John or Bill or Yeshua .. Gods name is specifically identified as his word not the letters thst spell "word" nor any of the letters it is the sum total of his sayings doctrines commands..... No one can ptlronounce Gods name you can only live it out in obediance..... Yeshua is a minor descriptive term NOT his proper name. More akin to a nick name designation but has no inheriant power in its pronunciation or its spelling. Gods name is NOT pronouncable in letters .... ERGO...
👉Ps 138:2. praise 🎯THY NAME 🎯… thou hast magnified 👉THY WORD👈 ABOVE ALL 🎯THY NAME🎯
It does NOT say "thy word" is given a name above other names coz here "THY WORD" is identified as the name that is placed above all other names
Rev 19:13. ..🎯HIS NAME🎯 IS called 👉THE WORD👈 OF GOD
Isaiah 52:1.6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW 🎯MY NAME:🎯
Rev 3:8 kept 👉MY WORD👈,.. not DENIED 🎯MY NAME🎯
Jn 17:6.... MANIFESTED 🎯THY NAME🎯 KEPT 👉THY WORD👈
THE NAME above every name ->saves 1Pt 3:21 & Acts 4:12
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that Whosoever SHALL CALL UPON 🎯THE NAME🎯 OF THE LORD shall be saved
Acts 4:12....for there is 🎯NONE OTHER NAME🎯..., whereby we must be saved.
hello! did the disciples call Yeshua 'my Lord'?
may Yehovah bless you and your work
Hello al, I would assume that they did address Him as “my Lord.” It is an appropriate Title for Him. The angel did say, “You shall call his Name Yeshua.” Shalom!
Look at the original Hebrew manuscripts. Every place that the lying pens of the scribes and Pharisees put the title “Lord” was His actual name. We are told hundreds of times in His Word that He wants us to call Him by name.
Yahusha, aka Jesus, said He came in His Father’s name. Also there was no such letter in the Hebrew alphabet, it was “Y”.
Apparently, you did NOT read the post. Try again and then comment. The scribes did not include vowels with the name (or only partial at times). I explained the vowels that I chose. How did you arrive at yours for the pronunciation?
Yahuah. And Yahusha.
I appreciate your giving your opinion on the matter. Just because you say it doesn't make it so and you provide no backup as to how you arrived at it. I do respect making an attempt and not just defaulting to "the LORD" or "Jesus." Maybe I am wrong, maybe you are, maybe we both are. I gave reasoning and evidence; you made an assertion with nothing to back it up so that I may consider your argument. Would you like to make a reasoned argument or just stand on your assertion?
Let me leave a post for you & all here. Lest I ever mislead or took anyone away from truth.. be blessed. And may my testimony touch your heart! In Jesus name. May health & truth, be upon thee!!
I do want to give testimony to the name Jesus Christ.. The name I prayed with and too & thru all my days that I turned unto he.. When the Night of my death did come? Which by an AI generated Spell of Death was unleashed upon me? Killing me!! And I was cast into Outer Darkness!
Which was the most HORRIFIC & TERRIFYING PLACE, a man or woman could ever fathom? It was Jesus name that brought a clash of heavy steel in the split second, 10,000 symbols struck my eyes like a serpent!! In that split second 2 great swords clashed & the sound? It is etched in my being forever.. The darkness I was therein? Was as black as black could ever be.. It was as forlorn & hopeless a place as any Man or Woman could ever even fathom. But it was the Name Jesus Christ that I repented unto.. prior to this fateful night last year.. For months on end in quite suffering and sheer repentance! I give you this testimony, from everything that I am!! My mind, body, spirit, soul, conscious & subconscious!! On all I ever was and shall be!! I speak the truth.. have a blessed night. If you want to talk? I am always willing to converse.. I have seen the pit of the abyss.. I was in it for a length of time, as I lay dead, face down on my hardwood floor.. it’s a night, I shall never forget. Lest anyone should be cast into Outer Darkness. As to me? There is NONE WORSE PLACE TO RESIDE FOR ETERNITY…
I did not share for likes or any shallow or superficial desires!! I shared to put the fear of the Lord Jesus Christ into any and all!! That they may know the consequences, of worshipping idols and or committing Idolatry.. If I lied? I asked that God strike me, with a bolt of lightening!!
It would be my desire that NONE should ever perish!! I don’t ever try to disrespect another’s views or beliefs. But I will not tolerate people being of any more confusion than there has already been for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.. I shared not a poem! But a journey of my entire life! That led to a night that tested everything I stand on!! I stand for The Name above ALL NAMES.. JESUS CHRIST..ACADEMIA?
They are funded with grants, that pay them to tell a story.
I am not funded or paid to speak!! I am not bought and paid for!! Matter of fact? I am poor!! And I am fine with it. There is NO price that is worth my soul or my devotion & faith & commitment unto Thy Heavenly Father & unto Almighty God Jesus Christ. For they are 1!! And I? I am 1 with them!! Forever & ever. I give ALL GLORY & PRAISE & WORSHIP UNTO OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN!! THIS IS NONE TIME FOR CONFUSION. I PUT MY LIFE THAT VERY NIGHT? AND BEFORE IT & AFTER IT, INTO THE HANDS OF THY FATHER!! WHOM IS THE LIGHT & JOY OF MY LIFE..I PRAY FOR THOSE IN DARKNESS & FOR THE CHILDREN & THE SICK & THE POOR & OPPRESSED… IN JESUS HOLIEST OF HOLY NAMES!! ABOVE ALL NAMES.. FOREVER & EVER.. AMEN.
Jesus Christ.. not arguing. It is as it is. Done
Thank you for clarifying. You have chosen tradition. Now we know.
I choose truth. I’m not saying that the Hebrew Name you are saying is not. I know many names are false idols!! I shall read up on this name.
My point is simple. There is also 1 name the world has hated!! Can you tell me what that name is?
Though doth protest too much!
We are in End times. When the CBDC is enacted? Hell? Literally comes with it. The Prophecy of The Book of Revealtion? Is 💯 in motion. This is serious times. The End is as the beginning. Best to you! I shared what I hope shall save a soul! The Holy Ghost is my way.
Take care!
You should explore the last few of my articles and you will see that I very much agree with you that we are in the last days. Revelation is playing out before our eyes as is Daniel. Shalom.
It’s an insane amount of events unfolding & occurring all at once. I’ll give them a read. Ty
I have CHOSEN THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES!! LOL
U CAN USE YOUR INTELLECT & TRY TO CONFUSE…
I USE THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES QUITE OFTEN…
GOD ALMIGHTY, IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION!!
NEVER HAS BEEN NEVER WILL.. IN THE SPIRIT REALM? JESUS CASTS OUT DEVILS… UNCLEAN SPIRITS.. NOT “YEHOVAH”! IN THE WORLD IN ANY MANNER. JESUS NAME IS THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES.. PERIOD. BUT U?? U CANNOT GRASP.. DIFFERENT CULTURES, USE DIFFERENT NAMES. BUT TO TRY TO CONFUSE?? IN THESE DAYS. WOW. THATS ON YOU. GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST!! FOR HE KNOWS WHOM HIS FLOCK IS. AND HE KNOWS A MAN OR WOMANS HEART & INTENTION.
I am so blessed with how you dig in and drill the truth about Yehovah’s name. I want to share the video from thewaybiblicalfellowship.com where yours and theirs study on His name overlaps. JP was saying between tribes of Israel there were very slight different ways of sounding His name because the locals have accents. If you have the time I believe the video gives another insight to His name
I would like to augment my previous comment. I wrote a previous article on “Tribes” that is tied to the meaning of names. It fits this discussion nicely. https://www.haveyouconsideredthis.com/p/have-you-considered-this-tribes
Thank you for sharing. I found the video. Very insightful. In Hebrew, names have meaning. Many people were renamed because they were changed; Abram and Jacob come to mind. I believe that knowing to pronounce the name is important and intertwined with the character that name means and represents. I would recommend the video to anyone that finds their way here. Shalom!
The properly pronounced Name is Yahweh. Learn to read Hebrew.
Amazing comment! Provide zero proof or justification for your assertion. Maybe you are right but just because you say it does not make is so. Resources? I provided links to resources that you can explore to determine if what I posited is true or not. You make assertions. Intellectually dishonest. You may very well be right; we’ll find out eventually. Say Yahweh if you would like, it is at least an attempt at a name instead of using a title.
Thank you, John!
May I respectfully encourage you to read a book (available online as a pdf) titled “The Complex Name of the Almighty”, by Yoseph Viel? in it, he explains how and why what has been mistranslated as “The Lord” and “Adonai”, is indeed the Name of God!
There is also a marvellous YouTube video from a Jewish Christian, showing how God’s name points directly to Yeshua, letter-by letter “hands - see - nails - see (look specifically for a Jewish teaching).
Would you mind to share the YT video? Thank you.
I am not sure about the exact video but I would encourage you to search something like “paleo Hebrew Yeshua.” This is very interesting as each letter has an individual meaning and a Hebrew word can represent an entire sentence when deconstructed. Happy hunting; it is fascinating.
Admirable that you are attempting to buck superstition and reintroduce God’s name.
There was a rule that the names for foreign gods were not to be pronounced in the land of Israel (which prophets broke, occasionally, to condemn people for specific disobedience, indicating Yehovah’s rule was more about intent than the letter of the law). But it seems as a result, secret false worshippers (that lived in Isreal) would use the title Ba’al to hide which god they actually worshipped. That idea may have metastasized and become the genesis of the later Jewish custom of substituting titles to refer to Yehovah - Making a title the de rigueur way of referring to God, gave more cover to false god worshippers… not to mention, it probably pleased Satan’s sense of revenge greatly. (Note that Satan means resister and Devil means slanderer, probably not what Satan prefers to be addressed by - it is, in a sense a derogatory nickname)
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This explanation of another way the Divine Name is read, shows that it may have more, a second applicable meaning:
YHWH: he causes to become
HWH: to become
What is the meaning of the name Yehovah? In Hebrew, the name Yehovah comes from a verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars feel that it reflects the causative form of that Hebrew verb. Thus, the understanding of one translation committee is that God’s name means “He Causes to Become.” Scholars hold varying views, so we cannot be dogmatic about this meaning. However, this definition well fits Yehovah’s role as the Creator of all things and the Fulfiller of his purpose. He not only caused the physical universe and intelligent beings to exist, but as events unfold, he continues to cause his will and purpose to be realized.Therefore, the meaning of the name Yehovah is not limited to the related verb found at Exodus 3:14, which reads: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become” or, “I Will Prove to Be What I Will Prove to Be.” In the strictest sense, those words do not fully define God’s name. Rather, they reveal an aspect of God’s personality, showing that he becomes what is needed in each circumstance to fulfill his purpose.
So while the name Yehovah may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes to happen with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
Thank you for your comment and adding to the discussion. I really appreciate it. My major point here is that what we think is normal, calling Him “God,” has not always been “normal.” Many do not even realize that the name is intentionally hidden 6,827 times in the Tanaka. I believe we should call Him by a name instead of a title. If someone chooses “Yahweh,” “Yahuah,” “Jehovah,” etc. is up to them. Just have a reason why that pronunciation is chosen. Know why you believe what you believe. Shalom!
I fully agree. I, in my previous comment, was explaining how the superstition or habit of saying God, instead of using his name, may have started with false worshippers hiding their false worship by using a title, then later (as they got into government, like Jezebel) forcing titles to be the cultural standard, to further diminish the Name.