John, thank you for challenging me to read your well-written article on the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus in the context of Passover and First Fruits. Alyson makes an excellent point: "Passover points us to deliverance through death and blood; First Fruits points us to accepted life and the beginning of the harvest." So very blessedly true! Thank you again and God bless!
THE CRUCIFIXTION-PASSOVER & RESURECTION = SUMMER NOT SPRING. ACENSION TOWARD THE FALL TIME
When the sun first comes into or "pops" into existance, (The geometric relationship between the sun & earth are identical on a flat or round earth) its first position defines & is at
A) HIGH NOON
B) HIGH SUMMER TIME ....
There are both scriptural as well as geometric with cause and effect logical reasons for this.
📆1) HOW DAYS ARE COUNTED LOGICALLY
Understanding how "day" & "days-24hours"/ days of week/ A "Lords Day" is properly counted.
A)Since God called the light day its logical that the day begin with light NOT night!
B) The sun begins to "go down" only from its highest/zenith point- FROM- NOON 12:01
Everything infront of suns path is MORNNING, eveverything behind suns path is EVENING. The initial start is at the location of suns first appearance which is NOON & SUMMER.
C) The moment that God put the sun in the sky, what time is it? NOON 12,...and why?
God speaks the "greater light to rule the day" aka sun into existance and then he says: "oh looky way over there its midnight & winter time or spring ..i think i will call that the start of a day and begin the year with that way over there"🤭.... ..I mean why would God start with the location He created the sun with anyway?....No no, it makes much more sense to create & put the sun in one location but start the light he called daytime & a year with a location that has nothing or least relationship to the location where He initially created & placed the "greater light which rules "the day" 🤭🤣🤡🤣....... The closest intial relationship the created sun and God above & earth below is NOON & SUMMER TIME!!
D) In Genisis its "evening & morrning" NOT "morning & evening"? SINCE THE DAY ENDS WITH MORRNING, WHEN DOES MORNING END??? 🤭🤭 THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER BIG CLUE AS TO WHEN EVENING BEGINS🤣🤣 🤠HIGH NOON🤠
What diference/ how would that affect counting days?
NOTE:
THE DARKNESS ON THE FACE OF THE DEEP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEQUENCE OF THE CREATED DAY:
1) THAT IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE PRE-CREATION CONDITION..... IT IS NOT PART OF THE DAY BEING CREATED .....
2) THE CREATION BEGINS WITH Genesis 1:3 .... Let there be light: and there was light...........THEN HE SAID .........1:5 And God called the (A) light Day, and the (B) darkness he called Night. And (A) the evening and the (B) morning were the first day.
3) SEQUENCE ASSOCIATION.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the (A) light Day, and the (B) darkness he called Night. And (A) the evening and the (B) morning were the first day.
EVENING BEGINGS WITH THE LIGHT .....MORNING BEGINGS WITH NIGHT.....
📆2) A DAY BEGINS WITH SCRIPTURE=
CHRIST THREE DAYS & THREE NIGHTS
3 days & 3 nights ( in heart of the earth/ place of disembodied spirits) is easily accomodated if you count from NOON- NOON ( evening & morning)
ERGO:
FRIDAY
Death in evening-night-morning
SATURDAY
evening-night-morning
SUNDAY
evening-night-morning resurection
Easy peasy
Modern jews are fake & their understanding of ancient/ original jewsish scripture is garbage too. They understood scripture so well they killed their own Mesiah so God cursed biological Israel into extinction and dummies today want to refer & appeal to fake Jews & "jewish callendars" & understandings of Gods creation & Gods word to glean wisdom & understanding
A day is EVENING & MORNING!! 12noon-12noon)
.....NOT
morning & evening (12 midnight- 12 midnight)
📆3) HOW A YEAR BEGINS =
A) God instructed start of their year was Egyptian moth of Abib ( Exodus 12:2& 13:4) & that is known to be SUMMER TIME!!
B) A YEAR LOGICALY BEGINS WITH SUMMER NOT SRING NOT WINTER NOT FALL.
C) Zechariah 14:1. THE DAY OF THE LORD COMETH, .........2... GATHER ALL NATIONS....THE CITY SHALL BE TAKEN,..But IT SHALL BE ONE DAY WHICH SHALL BE KNOWN TO THE LORD NOT DAY, NOR NIGHT:.: IN
(💥1💥) SUMMER AND IN
(💥2💥) WINTER
SHALL IT BE 16 ... SHALL EVEN GO UP FROM 📆YEAR TO YEAR📆
C) SPRING = TIME OF BIRTH-GROWTH BUT GOD CREATED EARTH, PLANTS ANIMALS HUMANS ADULTS FULLY GROWN = SUMMER NOT BIRTH & SPRING.
Passover is the celebration of the first born sons' rescue from death through obedience to God by offering the blood of the pure lamb on each household's door post. It is the celebration of faithful obedience leading to life not death. Of escape from Egypt and slavery, which is why the elements of that story are retold ceremonially in that meal.
John, thank you for sharing this with me in your comment on my article.
I agree with you that the resurrection should not be detached from the appointed times of YHWH. Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Shavuot provide the covenant calendar setting for Yeshua’s death, resurrection, and the outpouring in Acts 2. I especially appreciate the emphasis that resurrection belongs with First Fruits rather than with a later Easter framework.
Where I would frame it differently is on the identity of the First Fruits. I would still identify Yeshua himself as the First Fruits because Paul says directly, “Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” in 1 Corinthians 15:20, and again, “Messiah the firstfruits” in 15:23. So I would be cautious about saying the raised saints in Matthew 27 are the First Fruits instead of Yeshua.
I do think Matthew 27 may serve as a witness or sign that the harvest had begun. But in my framework, Yeshua remains the firstfruits of resurrection life, and those raised ones testify to the larger harvest his resurrection guarantees in God's plan of restoration of humanity.
I also agree that the death of Yeshua belongs in the Passover setting, while the resurrection belongs in the First Fruits setting. That distinction is important. Passover points us to deliverance through death and blood; First Fruits points us to accepted life and the beginning of the harvest. That actually strengthens the point I was making in my article: the empty tomb is not merely the aftermath of the cross. It is the beginning of new creation harvest.
So yes, I agree that First Fruits deserves more attention maybe in another article. I would simply keep Yeshua himself as the First Fruits, with Matthew 27 as a confirming sign of the harvest to come.
Again, thank you for sharing this with me. I always appreciate respectful dialogue.
I do think we mostly agree. Yes, Yeshua is the First Fruits, as Paul wrote. I am not denying that. The disagreement is the context. He is fulfilling the Feasts. The First Fruits Feast is an offering made by the High Priest. He did that. Most people never see it in the Gospels since you have to consider the stories told by different Gospel writers to see it. You also have to really know how the Feasts were kept each year when the Temple stood. Yeshua, in His role as the High Priest Forever, was making that very offering of the First Fruits of the eventual harvest of human souls. His raising that group right after His resurrection offers us hope/proof that His Gospel of the Kingdom is true, that He will raise us from the dead. Another thing that might help is: https://www.haveyouconsideredthis.com/p/have-you-considered-this-where-are
John, thank you for clarifying. I understand better now that you are not denying Yeshua as First Fruits in Paul’s language, but are emphasizing what you see as his priestly presentation of a First Fruits offering.
Where I would stand more firmly is this: I want to be careful to state what Scripture actually presents, not what can be inferred from a pattern.
In the resurrection accounts and apostolic witness, Yeshua is presented as the one whom God raised, vindicated, exalted, and appointed. Paul identifies Messiah himself as “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” in 1 Corinthians 15:20, and again says, “Messiah the firstfruits” in 1 Corinthians 15:23. So I would keep Yeshua himself as the First Fruits of resurrection life.
I do think Matthew 27:52–53 is significant. The raising of the holy ones after Yeshua’s resurrection can certainly signify the first signs of the harvest breaking open. But Matthew does not say they were the First Fruits offering. It does not say Yeshua took them to heaven. It does not say they were presented before the Father. It does not identify them with the twenty-four elders in Revelation.
This presents that Yeshua is the First Fruits of the harvest, and that the raising of the holy ones after His resurrection can signigy the beginning of the harvest after the First Fruits, Yeshua Himself.
So while I understand the pattern you are drawing from the feast framework, I would not state that as what Scripture presents. I would say Scripture presents Yeshua as the First Fruits, and Matthew’s raised holy ones as a witness or sign that the resurrection harvest had begun.
That distinction matters to me because I am trying to keep the argument rooted in what the text directly says. The feast framework is valuable, and I agree that resurrection belongs within the appointed times, but I would not move beyond Paul’s identification of Messiah himself as the First Fruits.
John, thank you for challenging me to read your well-written article on the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus in the context of Passover and First Fruits. Alyson makes an excellent point: "Passover points us to deliverance through death and blood; First Fruits points us to accepted life and the beginning of the harvest." So very blessedly true! Thank you again and God bless!
Nice work, sadly most of Christianity prefers church teachings over the founder of the church. So many doctrines have no connection to scripture !
Most blithely believe they go to heaven when they die.
…….as a point of intrest:
THE CRUCIFIXTION-PASSOVER & RESURECTION = SUMMER NOT SPRING. ACENSION TOWARD THE FALL TIME
When the sun first comes into or "pops" into existance, (The geometric relationship between the sun & earth are identical on a flat or round earth) its first position defines & is at
A) HIGH NOON
B) HIGH SUMMER TIME ....
There are both scriptural as well as geometric with cause and effect logical reasons for this.
📆1) HOW DAYS ARE COUNTED LOGICALLY
Understanding how "day" & "days-24hours"/ days of week/ A "Lords Day" is properly counted.
A)Since God called the light day its logical that the day begin with light NOT night!
B) The sun begins to "go down" only from its highest/zenith point- FROM- NOON 12:01
Everything infront of suns path is MORNNING, eveverything behind suns path is EVENING. The initial start is at the location of suns first appearance which is NOON & SUMMER.
C) The moment that God put the sun in the sky, what time is it? NOON 12,...and why?
God speaks the "greater light to rule the day" aka sun into existance and then he says: "oh looky way over there its midnight & winter time or spring ..i think i will call that the start of a day and begin the year with that way over there"🤭.... ..I mean why would God start with the location He created the sun with anyway?....No no, it makes much more sense to create & put the sun in one location but start the light he called daytime & a year with a location that has nothing or least relationship to the location where He initially created & placed the "greater light which rules "the day" 🤭🤣🤡🤣....... The closest intial relationship the created sun and God above & earth below is NOON & SUMMER TIME!!
D) In Genisis its "evening & morrning" NOT "morning & evening"? SINCE THE DAY ENDS WITH MORRNING, WHEN DOES MORNING END??? 🤭🤭 THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER BIG CLUE AS TO WHEN EVENING BEGINS🤣🤣 🤠HIGH NOON🤠
What diference/ how would that affect counting days?
NOTE:
THE DARKNESS ON THE FACE OF THE DEEP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEQUENCE OF THE CREATED DAY:
1) THAT IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE PRE-CREATION CONDITION..... IT IS NOT PART OF THE DAY BEING CREATED .....
2) THE CREATION BEGINS WITH Genesis 1:3 .... Let there be light: and there was light...........THEN HE SAID .........1:5 And God called the (A) light Day, and the (B) darkness he called Night. And (A) the evening and the (B) morning were the first day.
3) SEQUENCE ASSOCIATION.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the (A) light Day, and the (B) darkness he called Night. And (A) the evening and the (B) morning were the first day.
EVENING BEGINGS WITH THE LIGHT .....MORNING BEGINGS WITH NIGHT.....
📆2) A DAY BEGINS WITH SCRIPTURE=
CHRIST THREE DAYS & THREE NIGHTS
3 days & 3 nights ( in heart of the earth/ place of disembodied spirits) is easily accomodated if you count from NOON- NOON ( evening & morning)
ERGO:
FRIDAY
Death in evening-night-morning
SATURDAY
evening-night-morning
SUNDAY
evening-night-morning resurection
Easy peasy
Modern jews are fake & their understanding of ancient/ original jewsish scripture is garbage too. They understood scripture so well they killed their own Mesiah so God cursed biological Israel into extinction and dummies today want to refer & appeal to fake Jews & "jewish callendars" & understandings of Gods creation & Gods word to glean wisdom & understanding
A day is EVENING & MORNING!! 12noon-12noon)
.....NOT
morning & evening (12 midnight- 12 midnight)
📆3) HOW A YEAR BEGINS =
A) God instructed start of their year was Egyptian moth of Abib ( Exodus 12:2& 13:4) & that is known to be SUMMER TIME!!
B) A YEAR LOGICALY BEGINS WITH SUMMER NOT SRING NOT WINTER NOT FALL.
C) Zechariah 14:1. THE DAY OF THE LORD COMETH, .........2... GATHER ALL NATIONS....THE CITY SHALL BE TAKEN,..But IT SHALL BE ONE DAY WHICH SHALL BE KNOWN TO THE LORD NOT DAY, NOR NIGHT:.: IN
(💥1💥) SUMMER AND IN
(💥2💥) WINTER
SHALL IT BE 16 ... SHALL EVEN GO UP FROM 📆YEAR TO YEAR📆
C) SPRING = TIME OF BIRTH-GROWTH BUT GOD CREATED EARTH, PLANTS ANIMALS HUMANS ADULTS FULLY GROWN = SUMMER NOT BIRTH & SPRING.
https://www.scribd.com/document/804080506/Christs-3D-N
https://www.academia.edu/126275960/Christs_3D_and_N
Passover is the celebration of the first born sons' rescue from death through obedience to God by offering the blood of the pure lamb on each household's door post. It is the celebration of faithful obedience leading to life not death. Of escape from Egypt and slavery, which is why the elements of that story are retold ceremonially in that meal.
1. JEREMIAH told them to go to Egypt and die there, and they refused and said, they are going to Egypt? Please clarify.
John, thank you for sharing this with me in your comment on my article.
I agree with you that the resurrection should not be detached from the appointed times of YHWH. Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Shavuot provide the covenant calendar setting for Yeshua’s death, resurrection, and the outpouring in Acts 2. I especially appreciate the emphasis that resurrection belongs with First Fruits rather than with a later Easter framework.
Where I would frame it differently is on the identity of the First Fruits. I would still identify Yeshua himself as the First Fruits because Paul says directly, “Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” in 1 Corinthians 15:20, and again, “Messiah the firstfruits” in 15:23. So I would be cautious about saying the raised saints in Matthew 27 are the First Fruits instead of Yeshua.
I do think Matthew 27 may serve as a witness or sign that the harvest had begun. But in my framework, Yeshua remains the firstfruits of resurrection life, and those raised ones testify to the larger harvest his resurrection guarantees in God's plan of restoration of humanity.
I also agree that the death of Yeshua belongs in the Passover setting, while the resurrection belongs in the First Fruits setting. That distinction is important. Passover points us to deliverance through death and blood; First Fruits points us to accepted life and the beginning of the harvest. That actually strengthens the point I was making in my article: the empty tomb is not merely the aftermath of the cross. It is the beginning of new creation harvest.
So yes, I agree that First Fruits deserves more attention maybe in another article. I would simply keep Yeshua himself as the First Fruits, with Matthew 27 as a confirming sign of the harvest to come.
Again, thank you for sharing this with me. I always appreciate respectful dialogue.
I do think we mostly agree. Yes, Yeshua is the First Fruits, as Paul wrote. I am not denying that. The disagreement is the context. He is fulfilling the Feasts. The First Fruits Feast is an offering made by the High Priest. He did that. Most people never see it in the Gospels since you have to consider the stories told by different Gospel writers to see it. You also have to really know how the Feasts were kept each year when the Temple stood. Yeshua, in His role as the High Priest Forever, was making that very offering of the First Fruits of the eventual harvest of human souls. His raising that group right after His resurrection offers us hope/proof that His Gospel of the Kingdom is true, that He will raise us from the dead. Another thing that might help is: https://www.haveyouconsideredthis.com/p/have-you-considered-this-where-are
John, thank you for clarifying. I understand better now that you are not denying Yeshua as First Fruits in Paul’s language, but are emphasizing what you see as his priestly presentation of a First Fruits offering.
Where I would stand more firmly is this: I want to be careful to state what Scripture actually presents, not what can be inferred from a pattern.
In the resurrection accounts and apostolic witness, Yeshua is presented as the one whom God raised, vindicated, exalted, and appointed. Paul identifies Messiah himself as “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” in 1 Corinthians 15:20, and again says, “Messiah the firstfruits” in 1 Corinthians 15:23. So I would keep Yeshua himself as the First Fruits of resurrection life.
I do think Matthew 27:52–53 is significant. The raising of the holy ones after Yeshua’s resurrection can certainly signify the first signs of the harvest breaking open. But Matthew does not say they were the First Fruits offering. It does not say Yeshua took them to heaven. It does not say they were presented before the Father. It does not identify them with the twenty-four elders in Revelation.
This presents that Yeshua is the First Fruits of the harvest, and that the raising of the holy ones after His resurrection can signigy the beginning of the harvest after the First Fruits, Yeshua Himself.
So while I understand the pattern you are drawing from the feast framework, I would not state that as what Scripture presents. I would say Scripture presents Yeshua as the First Fruits, and Matthew’s raised holy ones as a witness or sign that the resurrection harvest had begun.
That distinction matters to me because I am trying to keep the argument rooted in what the text directly says. The feast framework is valuable, and I agree that resurrection belongs within the appointed times, but I would not move beyond Paul’s identification of Messiah himself as the First Fruits.
Again, wonderful dialogue, thank you!
Had the same question. I believe John should clarify this position better in the first presentment.